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How Did 4-Year-Old Get Gun? Details Emerge In Case Of Child Who Accidentally Shot, Killed Father

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How Did 4-Year-Old Get Gun? Details Emerge In Case Of Child Who Accidentally Shot, Killed Father

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PRESCOTT VALLEY, Ariz. -- Authorities in northern Arizona on Monday continued to investigate the events that led to a 4-year-old boy fatally shooting his father last week in what appeared to be a tragic accident.

Justin Stanfield Thomas, 35, along with his son, traveled from Phoenix to Prescott Valley south of Flagstaff on Friday for a surprise visit to a friend's home.

The young boy quickly found a loaded .380 caliber semi-automatic handgun, asked a question about it and pulled the trigger, Prescott Valley police Sgt. Brandon Bonney said.

Bonney said Monday no charges were expected in the case, and that the homeowner didn't have children and kept the weapon for self-defense.

He said the man was in a back bedroom, possibly asleep, when the two arrived, and within a minute the gun went off.

"He really wasn't in a position to know they were there or to go and secure his gun," Bonney said. "With this person, living by himself, there wasn't necessarily any legal requirement to keep that weapon locked away."

Bonney said the case raises questions about how weapons should be stored in the home even when there are no children present.

"We're still responsible for our weapons," Bonney said. "But do we require people to lock them up all the time no matter what, which might defeat the purpose of home defense?"

Larry Kolontar, owner of Common Sense Firearms Training in Des Moines, Iowa, said the issue isn't about whether children are present inside the home. It's about control of your weapon at all times.

"If it's not on you or in a secured location, out of reach and hidden, it needs to be locked up," said Kolontar, who teaches firearms safety. "This is a very sad, horrible situation, but it's one of those things that could have been avoided if the owner would have taken a little more responsibility and secured the weapon."

Prescott Valley police Sgt. Brandon Bonney says Monday that Thomas and his son had traveled from Phoenix to a friend's home in Prescott Valley for a surprise visit when the boy found a loaded gun, asked a question about it and pulled the trigger.

Bonney says investigators are trying to determine whether the tenant had a reasonable amount of time to secure the weapon.

No children lived in the house.

Firearms experts say owning weapons carries a certain responsibility and that young children should be taught to avoid handling them.

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The home owner should have locked the door but to even suggest a sleeping person in his own home may be at fault is ridiculous .jeff4570: Kids can be taught gun safety at a young agehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/jeff4570/4-year-old-shot-father-details_n_3418509_260195497.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. spinnerLoading comments… photomaskeddataVeteran, federal retiree, ukulele player, observer151 Fans 11 minutes ago ( 5:46 AM)I see a 2013 Darwin awards nomination in this story.maskeddata: I see a 2013 Darwin awards nomination in this story.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/maskeddata/4-year-old-shot-father-details_n_3418509_260195361.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. spinnerLoading comments… HUFFPOST SUPER USERjamesmac1030 Fans 17 minutes ago ( 5:40 AM)The thing I find fishy about this story is; did the father really come un-announced into the home which he probably new had loaded weapons. Did he really drive all that way on a surprise visit with out calling first. I suspect there is more to this story than we know.jamesmac10: The thing I find fishy about this story is; didhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/jamesmac10/4-year-old-shot-father-details_n_3418509_260195022.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. spinnerLoading comments… Je7880 Fans 18 minutes ago ( 5:39 AM)how does the guy know the 4 year old asked the question of he was sleeping in the other room? something is not rightJe78: how does the guy know the 4 year old askedhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Je78/4-year-old-shot-father-details_n_3418509_260194948.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. spinnerLoading comments… photoHUFFPOST SUPER USERdaemos 1Like you, I am the hand of fate117 Fans   20 minutes ago ( 5:37 AM)Horrible story. I also live in a country with high incidents of gun violence. The gun owner may not be technically negligent, but he will carry partial guilt for this incident for the rest of his life, especially since some 'unnecessary' caution could have prevented this from happening.daemos_1: Horrible story. I also live in a country with highhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/daemos_1/4-year-old-shot-father-details_n_3418509_260194856.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. spinnerLoading comments… HUFFPOST SUPER USERsweetgreensnowpeaalien researcher with a notepad257 Fans 20 minutes ago ( 5:37 AM)if a 4 year old can find a gun in a house in a minute, what about an intruder?sweetgreensnowpea: if a 4 year old can find a gun inhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/sweetgreensnowpea/4-year-old-shot-father-details_n_3418509_260194835.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. spinnerLoading comments… HUFFPOST SUPER USERrayinpragueYour micro-bio is empty537 Fans   25 minutes ago ( 5:32 AM)So you have a gun to protect your house, and then you leave the door unlocked so anybody can walk in while you are asleep? Wouldn't lockng the door work better?rayinprague: So you have a gun to protect your house, andhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/rayinprague/4-year-old-shot-father-details_n_3418509_260194553.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share it HUFFPOST SUPER USERShellylynPrevention is better than the Cure43 Fans 15 minutes ago ( 5:42 AM)Exactly my thought.Shellylyn: Exactly my thought.http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Shellylyn/4-year-old-shot-father-details_n_3418509_260195135.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. 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View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. spinnerLoading comments…This comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. spinnerLoading comments… photoHUFFPOST SUPER USERChi Man SamAusterity is the enemy of Prosperity1456 Fans 33 minutes ago ( 5:25 AM)Firearms experts say owning weapons carries a certain responsibility and that young children should be taught to avoid handling them.

Problem is young children have about a 5minute attention span,
also we have adults shooting themselves with there own weapons.
Kids see guns and its a huge temptation, do you really believe a 4
year can really tell ifs its real or not, can a 4 year old really understand
how dangerous it is. We teach our kids to do their homework, clean their
room, be nice to their sister and we do it over and over again, why because
their kids, not adults, with guns around it hard to teach over and over, one
shot and the lesson is over.Chi_Man_Sam: Firearms experts say owning weapons carries a certain responsibility andhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Chi_Man_Sam/4-year-old-shot-father-details_n_3418509_260194181.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share it HUFFPOST SUPER USERStickman12586 Fans 9 minutes ago ( 5:48 AM)5 minutes?....you are very generous!Stickman125: 5 minutes?....you are very generous!http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Stickman125/4-year-old-shot-father-details_n_3418509_260195491.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. spinnerLoading comments…This comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. spinnerLoading comments… bonatayIt will be hard. Be bold. Be courageous.281 Fans 33 minutes ago ( 5:24 AM)"He said the man was in a back bedroom, possibly asleep, when the two arrived, and within a minute the gun went off."

hhmmmm.....this story sounds fishy. Did the dad and his son knock on the door? Did the man open the door for his guest? Had the child and his dad been there before? If the dad is dead, how do they know it was a surprise visit? Did the child tell police that? Just my 2 cents.bonatay: "He said the man was in a back bedroom, possiblyhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/bonatay/4-year-old-shot-father-details_n_3418509_260194156.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. spinnerLoading comments… photoliephman88riding on a pony in a one horse town206 Fans 41 minutes ago ( 5:17 AM)He had the gun for home defence yet someone was able to walk into his home with a four year old child while he lay sleeping in the back and his home defence weapon is laying on a coffee table in the living room where these intruders merely picked it up? good home defence there.liephman88: He had the gun for home defence yet someone washttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/liephman88/4-year-old-shot-father-details_n_3418509_260193760.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. spinnerLoading comments… HUFFPOST SUPER USERjammer4306114 Fans 47 minutes ago ( 5:11 AM)Who cares if the homeowner kept guns all over his home, it's his right to, question is why did the father of the boy go into the house unannounced, I don't go into another's home without them asking me in.jammer4306: Who cares if the homeowner kept guns all over hishttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/jammer4306/4-year-old-shot-father-details_n_3418509_260193438.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share it HUFFPOST SUPER USERjamesmac1030 Fans 31 minutes ago ( 5:26 AM)Your point is valid and at the same time so is the point that the homeowner should keep his guns on him or out of reach of an intruder. Yes I said, an intruder. If that were a burglar who walked in the front door, the home owner would be SOL. What's the point of having arms in your home to protect you when they can fall into the wrong hands. This time it was a child.jamesmac10: Your point is valid and at the same time sohttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/jamesmac10/4-year-old-shot-father-details_n_3418509_260194244.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. spinnerLoading comments…This comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. spinnerLoading comments… HUFFPOST SUPER USERlittlewitchlosing faith in humanity one vote at a time696 Fans   50 minutes ago ( 5:08 AM)Where was the Dad's gun? , at least they could have had a shoot out to give the dad a fighting chance. The gun culture is so exciting.littlewitch: Where was the Dad's gun? , at least they couldhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/littlewitch/4-year-old-shot-father-details_n_3418509_260193275.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. View comment You have not right to carry out this operation or Error this operation. spinnerLoading comments… Deep Thinker maybe4 Fans 55 minutes ago ( 5:03 AM)Guns don't kill people. Four year olds kill people. Keep your 4 year old locked up.Deep_Thinker_maybe: Guns don't kill people. Four year olds kill people. Keephttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Deep_Thinker_maybe/4-year-old-shot-father-details_n_3418509_260192981.htmlHistory |Permalink |Share itThis comment has been down-ranked into oblivion. 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